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Re: CR/LF problems after upgrade

On Jan 17 16:57, Cary Jamison wrote:
> Christopher Faylor wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 04:47:39PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 12:47:12PM -0800, Shankar Unni wrote:
> >>> Cary Jamison wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> As far as I know, Unix is actually the oddball, using only a single
> >>>> character to represent two actions on the old ttys, a carriage
> >>>> return followed by a line feed.  All oses I used before I was
> >>>> exposed to Unix had <cr><lf> line endings - these included various
> >>>> other mini and microcomputer oses of the late 70s early 80s era.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you, Methuselah!
> >>>
> >>> Hey, on the old OSes that *I* used, there was no concept of a "line
> >>> separator". *Real* OSes used *records* (fixed-length space-padded,
> >>> or variable-length) for all files, including text files :-).
> >>> <CR><LF> was only used for formatting the file for printing..
> Heh, and you're calling me Methuselah??
> >> ?  The OSes that I used didn't need padding.  I just stayed within 7
> >                                                                    72
> >
> >> characters and used a new card when I needed to move to the next
> >> "line". No need for a backup either, since my programs were all on
> >> convenient, flammable cards.
> >
> > (stupid laptop drops keystrokes since I took it apart)
> >
> > cgf
> I was wondering how you fit much on a 7 character line!
> Of course, the real, state-of-the art oses I used could emulate the older 
> record based ones.  But, once you moved to a time-share system with multiple 
> terminals, who wanted fixed-length lines?

You saplings.  In my first microcomputer course we only had 8-bit boards
with a hex keyboard and a 2 digit LED display.  Every program which result
you can't display within 2 hex digits is a waste of electrons.

Granny Corinna

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