Re: FW: Cygwin patches into X (fwd)

[Chris Faylor <cgf at cygnus dot com>]

I don't understand.  Was this person responsible for submitting
the __CYGWIN__ patches to the code base?

-chris

On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 08:01:52AM -0400, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote:
>Following message may be of interest to others.
>Suhaib
>
>> Feel free to forward to the list if you like.
>> 
>> Nils.
>> 
>> 
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>> From: Branden Robinson <branden@ecn.purdue.edu>
>> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:00:17 -0400
>> To: Nils Lohner <lohner@debian.org>
>> Cc: debian-x@lists.debian.org
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>> On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 05:10:33PM +0200, Nils Lohner wrote:
>> > Someone has patches to allow XF86 to be built under Windoze
>> > with cygwin, and the XF people are reluctant to let 
>> them in due to
>> > commercial interestes, i.e. the finished X server 
>> binaries can't be bundl=
>> ed
>> > with other software.  Where do I find a clue bat large 
>> enough to change
>> > this thinking?  Please have a lok at the mail below and 
>> let me know what =
>> I=20
>> > can possibly do.
>> 
>> Yes, I saw the gigantic flamewar on xfree86-devel about 
>> this, which was
>> hopelessly entagled with what I'm sure is the thousandth 
>> iteration of a
>> BSD vs. GPL licensing flamewar on that list.
>> 
>> > My thinking: the patches do not force you to use cygwin 
>> to compile, but=
>> =20
>> > rather just enable it for those who want it, and so I 
>> don't see any reaso=
>> n=20
>> > why the XF people should object to the patches.  They 
>> enhance and do not=
>> =20
>> > limit in any way.  If someone else wants to posrt it to 
>> a compiler with a=
>> =20
>> > different license, noone is stopping them.
>> 
>> That's true.
>> 
>> > This is really frustrating me, people being this narrow 
>> minded (what's th=
>> e=20
>> > politically correct term for that? :) and I'm hoping 
>> people here will hav=
>> e=20
>> > some useful suggestions.
>> 
>> Uh, this mailing list is brand new and pretty limited in 
>> scope.  (See the
>> charter at <http://www.debian.org/~branden/>.)
>> 
>> If some folks here want to form or join a coalition about 
>> this, I don't
>> care, but I personally have too many irons in the fire as 
>> is and don't have
>> much personal interest in such a thing (though you can be 
>> sure I'd use it
>> if it saw the light of day).
>> 
>> Ultimately I think the best way to change XFree86's mind 
>> on things like
>> this is:
>>   1) Make very sure all these cygwin changes are 
>> MIT-licensed.  I don't see
>>      why this should be such a big deal as the X source 
>> base already
>>      supports tons of proprietary compilation 
>> environments already.
>>   2) If they don't listen, fork.  The sound of moving 
>> feet is a powerful
>>      motivator.  When interests diverge, this is often 
>> the best thing to
>>      do.
>> 
>> Point 2 has problems with the XFree86 membership 
>> agreement, though,
>> especially if the current patches are based against the 
>> CVS version of the
>> XFree86 code.  Then again, with 3.9.16 out, how different 
>> can it be?
>> 
>> I don't really have much more advice than that.  I also 
>> don't feel this
>> topic is terribly germane to this list, so if interested 
>> parties from this
>> list would consider mailing each other about I'd appreciate it.
>> 
>> Sorry to sound so uninterested but I really just have too 
>> much on my plate
>> to concern myself with XFree86 for Windows.  I hope you 
>> can sympathize.
>> 
>> - --=20
>> G. Branden Robinson              |   You don't just 
>> decide to break Kubrick=
>> 's
>> Debian GNU/Linux                 |   code of silence and 
>> then get drawn away
>> branden@ecn.purdue.edu           |   from it to a 
>> discussion about cough
>> cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ |   medicine.
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