RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Archive names and installation process now fol low XFree86 standard

[Suhaib Siddiqi <ssiddiqi at inspirepharm dot com>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Morrison, John [mailto:John.Morrison@uk.experian.com] 
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:17 AM
> To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com'
> Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Archive names and installation 
> process now fol low XFree86 standard
> 
> 
> <shouts-of-joy>IT WORKS</shouts-of-joy>
> 
> One further thing, could you please mention that the 
> startxwin.bat file
> exists in /usr/X11R6/bin/startup-scripts.  Thicko here had to 
> search for it!

Harold asked me to move the startxwin.bat (for Windows NT), startxwin9x.bat
for Windows 9x/ME and startxwin.sh scripts to /usr/X11R6/bin instead of
/usr/X11R6/bin/startup-scripts.  Those batch and shell scripts should be
consider as examples.  I moved them to startup-scripts because I was getting
sick and tired of users complaining /B not found, rxvt not found, mxterm not
found... and none of them consider to read mail archives or consider to edit
a sample batch file for their use.  Therefore I thought to move them to
startup-script directory with a Readme file that these are sample files and
users must edit them according to their ENV and installation.

Suhaib


> 
> *Many* thanks for getting this working.  I've been trying for 
> *months*.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Morrison, John 
> > Sent: Monday, 02 July 2001 13:03
> > To: 'Suhaib Siddiqi'
> > Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Archive names and installation 
> process now
> > fol low XFree86 standard
> > 
> > 
> > True, but the installation docs (which many people follow as 
> > gospel *GRIN*) say use /.
> > 
> > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/cygwin-xfree-installing.html
> > 
> > 2. Change the current directory to your Cygwin root directory:
> > 
> > Harold@MyWindowsHost ~
> > $ cd /
> > Harold@MyWindowsHost /
> > $ 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, 02 July 2001 13:03
> > > To: 'Morrison, John'; 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com'
> > > Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Archive names and installation 
> > process now
> > > fol low XFree86 standard
> > > 
> > > 
> > > As a principle on UNIX machines too, you never start 
> > > installation from /
> > > (root directory), instead you put your tar balls in /tmp or 
> > some other
> > > temporary directory and install from there.
> > > 
> > > Suhaib
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Morrison, John [mailto:John.Morrison@uk.experian.com] 
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 7:59 AM
> > > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com'
> > > > Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Archive names and installation 
> > > > process now fol low XFree86 standard
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Works from tmp.  Doesn't from the root as documented.
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Suhaib Siddiqi [mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, 02 July 2001 12:56
> > > > > To: 'Travis Howell'; 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com'
> > > > > Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Archive names and installation 
> > > > process now
> > > > > fol low XFree86 standard
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > It works just fine over here :-O  Here is what I did
> > > > > put everything /tmp directory
> > > > > then
> > > > > bunzip2 extract.exe.bz2
> > > > > then
> > > > > sh Xinstall.sh
> > > > > 
> > > > > and installation proceeds....
> > > > > 
> > > > > Suhaib
> > > > > 
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Travis Howell [mailto:kirben@optushome.com.au] 
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 7:43 AM
> > > > > > To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Archive names and installation 
> > > > > > process now follow XFree86 standard
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'm starting Xinstall.sh from / and a copy of 
> extract.exe is 
> > > > > > already there
> > > > > > as you can see from previous message.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" <ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com>
> > > > > > To: "'Travis Howell'" <kirben@optushome.com.au>;
> > > > > > <cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 9:38 PM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Archive names and installation 
> > > > > process now
> > > > > > follow XFree86 standard
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Can you put the extract executable in the same directory 
> > > > > > from where you
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > executing Xinstall.sh, then execute script?
> > > > > > > Let me know
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Suhaib
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Travis Howell [mailto:kirben@optushome.com.au]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 7:38 AM
> > > > > > > > To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Archive names and 
> installation
> > > > > > > > process now follow XFree86 standard
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > extract seems to work fine from either directory, see 
> > > > > > output below:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Administrator@CO3007967-A /
> > > > > > > > $ extract
> > > > > > > > extract: No .tgz files specified
> > > > > > > > Try `extract --help' for more information.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Administrator@CO3007967-A /bin
> > > > > > > > $ extract
> > > > > > > > extract: No .tgz files specified
> > > > > > > > Try `extract --help' for more information.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" <ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com>
> > > > > > > > To: "'Travis Howell'" <kirben@optushome.com.au>;
> > > > > > > > <cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 9:34 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Archive names and 
> > > > > > installation process now
> > > > > > > > follow XFree86 standard
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > from the error what I see, it is unable to find 
> > "extract".
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What happen if you type extract at the bash 
> > prompt?  If it
> > > > > > > > is in your
> > > > > > > > path,
> > > > > > > > > it should return an error, if not then it should say 
> > > > > > file not found.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Suhaib
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Travis Howell [mailto:kirben@optushome.com.au]
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 7:29 AM
> > > > > > > > > > To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Archive names and 
> > > installation
> > > > > > > > > > process now follow XFree86 standard
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I have already downloaded extract.exe.bz2, 
> > > > extracted it and
> > > > > > > > > > copied it to
> > > > > > > > > > /bin as per the user guide
> > > > > > > > > > So extract.exe is in both / and /bin so I have 
> > > no idea why
> > > > > > > > > > the script is
> > > > > > > > > > having trouble using it.
> > > > > > > > > > The script itself creates a symbolic link from 
> > > /gnu-tar to
> > > > > > > > > > /extract.exe so
> > > > > > > > > > again the script should be finding it
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" <ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com>
> > > > > > > > > > To: "'Travis Howell'" <kirben@optushome.com.au>;
> > > > > > > > > > <cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 9:14 PM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Archive names and
> > > > > > > > installation process now
> > > > > > > > > > follow XFree86 standard
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You must download extract.exe.bz2, unbzip2 
> > and put it
> > > > > > > > > > somewhere in your
> > > > > > > > > > PATH
> > > > > > > > > > > and best create a symlink to it
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ln -s extract.exe gnu-tr
> > > > > > > > > > > .  Extract.exe is a highly modified, by Xfree86 
> > > > > > Inc, GNU tar.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Suhaib
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: Travis Howell 
> > [mailto:kirben@optushome.com.au]
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 7:11 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Archive names and 
> > > > > installation
> > > > > > > > > > > > process now follow XFree86 standard
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm using Cygwin 1.3.2 on Windows 2000 
> > > > (Service Pack 2),
> > > > > > > > > > > > Cygwin is installed
> > > > > > > > > > > > in C:/Cygwin/
> > > > > > > > > > > > I didn't have any success at all with the 
> > > new install
> > > > > > > > > > > > process, I followed
> > > > > > > > > > > > exact intructions in your user guide but the 
> > > > script just
> > > > > > > > > > fails mostly:
> > > > > > > > > > > > BTW why not just modify cygwin's setup.exe to 
> > > > > allow simple
> > > > > > > > > > > > download, install
> > > > > > > > > > > > and setup through gui ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > The script output is below:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Administrator@CO3007967-A /
> > > > > > > > > > > > $ ./Xinstall.sh
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >                 Welcome to the XFree86 
> > > 4.1.0 installer
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > You are strongly advised to backup your 
> > > > existing XFree86
> > > > > > > > > > installation
> > > > > > > > > > > > before proceeding.  This includes the 
> /usr/X11R6 
> > > > > > and /etc/X11
> > > > > > > > > > > > directories.  The installation process will 
> > > overwrite
> > > > > > > > > > existing files
> > > > > > > > > > > > in those directories, and this may include some
> > > > > > > > > > configuration files
> > > > > > > > > > > > that may have been customised.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > If you are installing a version different from 
> > > > > 4.1.0, you
> > > > > > > > > > > > may need an updated version of this 
> > > installer script.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Do you wish to continue? (y/n) [n] y
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Checking which OS you're running...
> > > > > > > > > > > > uname reports 'CYGWIN_NT-5.0' version 
> > > > '1.3.2(0.39/3/2)',
> > > > > > > > > > architecture
> > > > > > > > > > > > 'i686'.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > chmod: changing permissions of `extract': No 
> > > > > such file or
> > > > > > > > > > directory
> > > > > > > > > > > > //gnu-tar: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > Warning: can't detect the bindist version
> > > > > > > > > > > > Checking for required files ...
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Creating /usr/X11R6
> > > > > > > > > > > > Creating /usr/X11R6/lib
> > > > > > > > > > > > Creating /usr/X11R6/lib/X11
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Removing some old directories that are 
> no longer 
> > > > > > required...
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Creating /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb
> > > > > > > > > > > > Extracting Xetc.tgz into a temporary 
> location ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > //extract: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > Installing the app-defaults config files ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > //gnu-tar: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > //gnu-tar: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > Installing the fs config files ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > //gnu-tar: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > //gnu-tar: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > Installing the lbxproxy config files ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > //gnu-tar: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > //gnu-tar: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > Installing the proxymngr config files ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > //gnu-tar: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > //gnu-tar: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > Installing the rstart config files ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > //gnu-tar: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > //gnu-tar: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > Installing the twm config files ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > //gnu-tar: not found//gnu-tar: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Installing the xdm config files ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > //gnu-tar: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > //gnu-tar: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > Installing the xinit config files ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > //gnu-tar: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > //gnu-tar: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > Installing the xsm config files ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > //gnu-tar: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > //gnu-tar: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > Installing the xserver config files ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > //gnu-tar: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > //gnu-tar: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > Installing the XftConfig config file ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > + cp -p .etctmp/XftConfig 
> > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XftConfig
> > > > > > > > > > > > cp: cannot stat `.etctmp/XftConfig': No 
> such file 
> > > > > > or directory
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Installing the mandatory parts of the binary 
> > > > > distribution
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > //extract: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > //extract: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > //extract: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > //extract: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > //extract: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > //extract: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > //extract: not found
> > > > > > > > > > > > Checking for post-release updates ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > Checking for optional components to install ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > Do you want to install Xfsrv.tgz (font server)? 
> > > > > (y/n) [y]
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
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