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Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - No longer associated with XFree86.org
- From: Harold L Hunt II <huntharo at msu dot edu>
- To: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com
- Cc: eich at suse dot com
- Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:29:53 -0500
- Subject: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - No longer associated with XFree86.org
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Egbert,
Egbert Eich wrote:
Harold,
I find it sad that you had to make this decision.
I've just been absent for a little more than two weeks and
was unable to commit patches - look what came out of it.
Egbert, I am sorry, I want to make it absolutely clear that my raising
the issue with XFree86.org and subsequent decision had nothing to do
with you. You were actually a great help to me, I appreciate the work
that you did with me very much. There was a larger problem here... one
that had nothing to do with you.
I understand that the level of frustration among contributors
has risen to a point that people are starting to use bad words.
I've tried to get support from individual core team members
for giving you commit rights. After I was unable to do so (maybe
I asked the wrong ones) I decided to no longer persue the issue.
None of the initiatives I've made so far have been accepted.
I appreciate that Egbert. That really gets to the heart of the matter:
this isn't about cvs commit access, this is about the arbitrary,
subjective, and unresponsive manner in which the project is being managed.
I don't understand why people cannot deal with issues on the
pragmatic level by looking at how one can best distribute
the workload so that the burdeon on each individual volunteer
is reduced.
I really wish they could have seen that too.
The discussion always turns to who owes what to whom. This is
the wrong question. All or most of us are volunteers. Therefore
noone owes anything to anybody.
I get more and more the impression that David is working on
narrowing down the scope of XFree86.
There are alternatives in sight and I hope something will be
in place before too long that will again serve a place where
people interested in X can meet and work together.
Yes, I am beginning to work with some other developers who have left
XFree86.org as well. It is so unfortunate that XFree86.org is pushing
away developers one-by-one, only to assemble the same group elsewhere.
That is a pointless waste of time; that sort of thing should not have to
happen.
I was a little surprised too to see that my request was interpreted as
being owed something :) Jeez, not only is the process of getting cvs
commit access undefined, it is a veritable mine field; you cannot
possibly ask in a humble enough manner for their taste.
Anyhow, I want to reiterate again that I enjoy working with you Egbert
and that I hope we continue to work together in the future.
Thanks for your input,
Harold