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Re: xorg installation fails, 99% complete only


Bobby McNulty <bobbymcn <at> bellsouth.net> writes:

> 
> Christopher Faylor wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, Nov 08, 2004 at 01:04:04PM -0600, Bobby McNulty wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Alexander Gottwald wrote:
> >>    
> >>
> >>>On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Bobby McNulty wrote:
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>I'm not installing cygwin on my machine until the xorg problem is
> >>>>resolved.  One program I wanted to port to Cygwin is Rosegarden.  Which
> >>>>I can't because Xorg is not installing, so that means the kde port
> >>>>won't work,.  The KDE port won't work either.  Get Harold Hunt back
> >>>>here to fix this.  The current maintainers have no idea what they are
> >>>>doing.
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>Provide me with useful information and I'll take a look.
> >>>
> >>>As I've said it was working for me until last week.  I've not received
> >>>any useful data which may help tracking this down.
> >>>
> >>>Maybe you'll find a solution then it's all good.  If not then stop
> >>>insulting me or do it better.
> >>>
> >>>bye ago, enraged
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>Alex, I think the problem is with setup.  Because when setup gets to
> >>the fontserver, where 4 people are complaining so far, it stalls on a
> >>readme file.
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >It works fine for me.  Just tried it.
> >
> >You've been reading the cygwin mailing list long enough to know that you
> >have not provided the slightest shred of useful data
> >
> >Bobby, either provide useful information or just shut up.  Telling
> >everyone what you are going to do or not going to do and insulting
> >people is totally unproductive.
> >
> >Do me a favor and don't even respond to this email.  Either provide some
> >details or just be quiet.  Useful details might be, for example, "ps -ef"
> >output.
> >
> >cgf
> >
> >  
> >
> OK Chris, here it is. The full report. Complete down to the readme file 
> that it is hanging at.
> Cygwin setup is at 97%
> it says install xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0-2
> /usr/X11R6/share/doc/Cygwin/xorg-x11-fscl-6.8.1.0.README
> 
> its in a contiuous loop, not gettiing past this point.
> 
> 

I'm about to say something that surely is going to upset some people here. Try 
not to get mad at me anyway. Warning: if you are not open-minded kind of person, 
you're advised to skip everyting below.

This issue was first reported by Bobby McNulty on 03/11. Then on 04/11 Ling F. 
Zhang reported the same problem and said he was the third one to report the 
problem although I still can't find that second one. Ling asked the same 
question again on 06/11 providing some more information. I posted the same 
question on 06/11 confirming the issue and providing quite detailed information 
(I think). All these were in cygwin section. Now you can count how many people 
had been having this problem. Nobody was interested in the issue until Bobby 
spoke up yesterday. I think what he said was perfectly all right and reasonable. 
I myself have also been waiting for this setup issue to be resolved before I 
install Cygwin on this new computer. I last installed Cygwin in Dec 2003 and 
I've just got a new computer and installed a fresh clean Windows XP and want to 
install the latest Cygwin in full. I don't want to skip the X part and install 
it manually afterwards as I have no idea if that would do exactly the same 
thing. The setup.exe should do the installation job properly.

As for what our two develpers said, I do respect them for what they do for us 
but I wouldn't tell my users to shut up like that. Being a volunteer doing 
things for people for free doesn't give you the right to do that. You need the 
users and the users need you. It is simple, you either do it your best or you 
don't do it at all. There are people who can do better or have done better as 
Bobby implied. You should listen to what users have to say. Not just praise you 
also have to listen to criticism. All can be constructive depends on how you 
look at it and how open-minded you are. You shouldn't tell your users to come do 
what you're doing if they think they can do better. That reminds me of 
politicians in some third-world countries. You should have done better in this 
case. You should ask for more information from users instead of assuming 
everyone knows what information they should provide or telling them to shut up 
when they don't do what you think they should do. They are not as genius as you 
otherwise they wouldn't be here asking for help. What Bobby and Carlo reported 
yesterday and today are the same thing I already reported 3 days ago. In fact I 
even gave more information. Like, the error points were different between 
archives from different mirror sites. That post of mine was cited in yesterday 
posts did anyone take a look at it before asking Bobby for more information? He 
also mentioned 4 people had been complaining did anyone check those posts by 
those 4 people? Also I had no idea you could do "ps -ef" while installing 
Cygwin.

Now, I think that's more than enough to get myself flamed for today. Feel free 
to do so I'm open to all sorts of criticism. Oh, there is more information I can 
give. My OS is Windows XP SP1. So it's not only XP SP2 that is having this 
problem. Also I have my Symantec Antivirus Corp Ed 8.1.1 turned off in Windows' 
Services before starting the installation.

Christopher when you said "It works fine for me. Just tried it." what did you 
do? Can you give more details like I gave in my first post? Like, which mirror 
site did you downloaded the archive from, your OS, etc.? Like I said different 
mirror sites gave different error points here. Maybe your mirror site has the 
most perfect copy of the archive which gives no errors at all. I really wanna 
try that.

Is there anyway to turn on setup.exe's debugging so that we all can test to see 
what it's looping for at 97% or 99%?

Best Regards.



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