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RE: whining (was: RE: Why is gcc3.2 prerelease?)
- From: "Bruce Adams [TEPG Sunbury]" <bruadams at tycoint dot com>
- To: <cygwin at cygwin dot com>
- Cc: "Stephan Mueller" <smueller at Exchange dot Microsoft dot com>,"Jim Drash" <JDrash at eesus dot jnj dot com>
- Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:10:35 -0000
- Subject: RE: whining (was: RE: Why is gcc3.2 prerelease?)
>From: Stephan Mueller [mailto:smueller at Exchange dot Microsoft dot com]
>Sent: 05 March 2003 21:34
>To: Jim Drash; cygwin at cygwin dot com
>Subject: OT: whining (was: RE: Why is gcc3.2 prerelease?)
>I'm not being thin-skinned -- I was using an example from
>Andrew's mail (the M$ reference) to have some fun with his
>'careless mistake' comment. I used it because it was
>conveniently available, is all. (Note how my wording was
>virtually identical to Andrew's.)
>I think by 'the author' you're referring to me (not Andrew),
>so I'll address your comment about whining. 1) I wouldn't
>call my comment whining :-) 2) what would you propose I do
>that counts as a positive way to change the perception? I
>think that a polite comment or two rebutting a clearly (IMHO)
>over-the-top suggestion that Microsoft has 'infiltrated FSF'
>to 'sabotage' things, in a post with some other, excellent
>points (your claim, not mine :-) is a decent way to go about
>this. And oh yeah, when I'm not posting here, I work really
>hard on Microsoft software, removing bugs, getting others to
>remove bugs, designing things well, that sort of thing.
>We're now off-topic for the list; sorry. I won't reply again
>in public on this thread. I've also re-added the original
>thread below, since the text of this message and the one I'm
>replying to make references to text in the original discussion.
>stephan(speaking only for myself, not my employer);
I thought the whining comment was directed at me.
My apologies for any offence caused. I'm not a "religious nutball" but
I do have a *very* healthy cynical attitude. Particularly in regard
to certain corporate, dare I say, anti-competitive policies. That is not
a dig at anyone in particular. It can apply to pretty much any organisation
following the policies that make companies successful in our capitalist
I have no problem with the commercialisation of software. I wouldn't have
a job without it.
If it helps any I'm just as cynical about anything else I work on or come
into contact with
There is just one thing that I'd like to remind everybody about. Just
there isn't a smiley doesn't mean it isn't meant in good humour.
That said just because its meant in good humour doesn't mean there isn't a
grain of truth in it.
1 2 3 4 I declare a flame war.
Lets kill this thread here and now before the weapons of mass destruction
are brought out (that is *NOT* a reference to XP & critical mass)
Bruce the cynic.
(because I don't have the cash to buy a lawyer good enough to win a battle,
never mind that I'm in the right):
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