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Re: RXVT copy/paste behavior

Dave Korn wrote:

The selection model used by rxvt is standard throughout the X11 world.

It's insane.

And it's not necessarily standard either. For example, Konsole on SuSE does not auto select.

Unless you have the precision muscular control skills of a world-class gymnast, a mouse always moves at least a little bit when you press down on the button.

This makes it very tricky to select a new window without unintentionally erasing the contents of the clipboard that you were hoping to paste there because the mouse moved just enough as you clicked it to select a single character and the auto-copy destroyed your clipboard contents without asking.

It's not quite as bad as that really. Slight movements do not alway register a selection. It is hit and miss sometimes...

Destroying user data without any kind of confirmation, are-you-sure, or requiring a difficult-to-type-accidentally key-combination (such as ctrl-c) is an appallingly incompetent piece of UI design. It's like having a pistol without a safety catch, or an ICBM without a dual-key control.

FWIW, it's not just X programs that do this. TeraTerm (a 'doze terminal emulator) has this same behaviour, and it has wasted lots of my time and energy in having to repeatedly go back to the original window and re-copy the original text.

And don't tell me that I'm only ever allowed to select windows by clicking on the menu bar and that I get what I deserve if I click in the main part of the window. If you have lots of windows open, the menu bars of many of them are often obscured. Why should 99% of the window's surface area be verboten for selecting that window?

The entire model is screwy. It wastes lots of my time and interrupts my workflow. The 'doze way works smoothly and is much closer to fail-safe: it's very hard to accidentally press Ctrl+C and lose data in the same way.

Learn it and enjoy the elegant simplicity of the scheme instead of the insane mouse, keyboard, mouse, keyboard routine that characterises the Windows way.

Real experts operate a computer with one hand on the mouse and one on the keyboard *at the same time* anyway. This makes it very easy to do selecting, cutting and pasting. And under 'doze, you can also use a right-click over the selected area to bring up a menu with cut, copy and paste options. You don't *have* to use the keyboard if you don't find it more efficient.

Good points. -- A closed mouth gathers no feet.

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