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Re: Fwd: MC/ncurses on cygwin: Borders turn into chinese characters and layout screws up


On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 06:56:06PM +0800, Adrian May wrote:
>The cygwin folks will have to use their imaginations because their box
>doesn't want pictures. Not my problem.

"Their box doesn't want pictures".  After staring at that statement for
a minute or two, I've concluded that means that you had problems sending
attachments to the list.  Your masterful use of language confounded me
for a minute.

Ah, I see.  Yes, you tried to send a gif to the mailing list and were
blocked by the spam blocker.  I can see how that would be troubling to
you.  Luckily, in this case we don't need the "picture".  Read on.

>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>From: Adrian May <adrian.alexander.may@gmail.com>
>Date: 2009/11/20
>Subject: MC/ncurses on cygwin: Borders turn into chinese characters
>	and layout screws up
>To: mc-devel, cygwin, bug-ncurses
>
>
>Hi folks,
>
>The attachment shows what mc version 4.6.1 looks like in my cygwin:
>
>$ bash --version
>GNU bash, version 3.2.49(22)-release (i686-pc-cygwin)
>
>It's an XP box, evidently with chinese fonts installed. Looks like the
>old dos border-drawing characters are turning into chinese characters
>and taking up less space.
>
>Please don't involve me in your triage process or ask me to send it
>somewhere else. I've had that several times before and I think it's
>rubbish to expect a user to navigate a project's internal processes
>just because you expect them to feel good about contributing to an
>open source project. It's not my product or my problem. You've seen
>the proof, so figure it out for yourselves.
>
>Just a quickie for cygwin: if you insist on patronising your customers
>about their bug reporting skills (http://cygwin.com/problems.html)
>then may I suggest that you show some smartness yourselves by just
>telling us which bloody mailing list to use right there in the bug
>reporting page instead of making us hunt through the rest of the site.
>Better still, provide a form and have it search the archives itself.

This demanding, insulting, and vague method of reporting a problem is
not going to have the effect that you are possibly hoping for: your
problem will not be investigated.  So, rest assured that no one will be
bothering you by asking annoying triage questions like "What version of
Cygwin are you running?" or "What version of mc do you have?" since
we're not going to bother looking into the problem at all.

FYI, You are really a poster child (emphasis on child) for why we have
the http://cygwin.com/problems.html page to begin with.  I do understand
why someone like you would be frustrated by that page.  There are a lot
of words there and you're clearly an action-oriented guy with no
tolerance for spending time trying to figure out the best way to
communicate with people who you want to help you.  Unfortunately, what
this means is "no soup for you".

It would probably be best if you uninstalled Cygwin and found some other
method for running "MC/ncurses".  If you actually purchase some software
then you will really be a "customer" and someone will be paid to
tolerate your clueless rudeness.  Thankfully, we don't have to do that
here.

cgf

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