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Re: cygwin started speaking German today


On 09/08/2011 01:47 PM, Andy Koppe wrote:
On 8 September 2011 13:04, Charles Wilson wrote:
On 9/8/2011 6:46 AM, Bruno Haible wrote:
There is nothing to "fix". Users who don't want internationalization system-wide
can set their locale in the "Regional Settings" control panel to English.
Users who want to have a German Windows but a non-internationalized Cygwin can
set LANG=C or LC_ALL=C - exactly like POSIX specifies.

But setting LANG=C.UTF-8 (and not setting any of the LC_* vars at all) should have the same behavior as setting LC_ALL=C.UTF-8.

It does not -- and THAT's the bug.

I agree.


Further to that, however, Cygwin developers decided that the system
default locale in case neither the relevant LC_* nor LANG are set
should also be "C.UTF-8". That's what setlocale(LC_BLA, "") returns in
that case. It's rather dubious behaviour of libintl to override that.

I'd argue that if none of LC_* or LANG are set, then setlocale(LC_BLA,"") should indeed return the system default, rather than being hard-coded to C. POSIX intentionally left behavior as implementation-defined on which locale is returned when none of the environment variables set a locale, precisely so that systems could implement a sane default according to user preferences expressed in some other manner.



Cygwin isn't Windows; it's a POSIX environment on top of Windows. Taking the Regional Settings control panel into account might well make sense, but it ought to be left to the Cygwin developers to decide on this and implement it centrally.

I also agree with this sentiment - if setlocale(LC_BLA, "") is not returning sane results (that is, if there is a system default, but cygwin is not honoring those defaults), then the bug should be fixed in cygwin, not libintl.


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