This is the mail archive of the cygwin mailing list for the Cygwin project.

Index Nav: [Date Index] [Subject Index] [Author Index] [Thread Index]
Message Nav: [Date Prev] [Date Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next]
Other format: [Raw text]

Time to obsolete the opengl package ?

Hi cygwiners,

With the recent update of parrot, the only package depending on my old opengl package went away. I think 
it might be time to retire it, i.e., mark it as "obsolete". There may be some issues doing this, so I 
wanted to discuss it here first.

The opengl package has been a mixed bag of things related to native opengl, that is, the implementation 
provided with Windows by M$, upon which hardware-accelerated implementations, made by graphic card 
manufacturers, graft when available. The package contains, or has contained up to some point:

- Header files (.h) for M$ opengl and glu. Long ago (circa 2000), the w32api package provided the linking 
libraries (.a) for these, but not the .h files. That anomaly was corrected a few years later and the 
ownership of the header files has been transferred to the w32api package.

- The native GLUT library, which aims at gluing opengl programs with the windows system, i.e., provide a 
graphic context and access to devices such as keyboard and mouse. This library is based on Nate Robins'
native GLUT, which interfaces directly with Windows, without an X server intermediary. At the time, it 
was the only way for a cygwin program to obtain a hardware-accelerated graphic context. Later, an X 
server version providing a software only implementation of opengl graphic contexts appeared. For years, 
these have run in parallel worlds: an X-compatible but slow version and a fast but X-incompatible one. 
Then the X server catched-up and started to provide access to hardware-accelerated opengl contexts too. 
The version of GLUT provided to work with the X-server is based on FreeGLUT, a librairy that aims at 
original GLUT compatibility. Nate Robins' GLUT has been unmaintained for years, while FreeGLUT is alive 
and kicking. Although FreeGLUT tries to be GLUT compatible, the look and feel is noticeably different, 
specially the fonts and the menu system. So updating GLUT-based programs to FreeGLUT ones would 
significantly change their user's experience, as Corinna noticed for the parrot package in .

- The native GLUI library, a provider of nice-looking GUI widgets based on GLUT. Unfortunately, it has 
been unmaintained for years too. To get an idea of what it is providing, you may run one of the example 
programs provided by the opengl package, such as /usr/lib/glui-examples/example6.exe .

I sent a similar message to cygwin-aps on May 4th, and no package maintainer objected to the retirement
of the opengl package. So, if no user voice any _strong_ objection on this list before the end of this month, 
like a piece of software that is functionnal with GLUT but not with FreeGLUT, I will send a 
formal request to retire the opengl package.


- André Bleau, cygwin's volunteer opengl package maintainer

Please reply to the list, not to me directly.             


Problem reports:
Unsubscribe info:

Index Nav: [Date Index] [Subject Index] [Author Index] [Thread Index]
Message Nav: [Date Prev] [Date Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next]