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Re: native Linux userland in Windows 10
- From: John Cowan <cowan at mercury dot ccil dot org>
- To: cygwin at cygwin dot com
- Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 16:49:19 -0400
- Subject: Re: native Linux userland in Windows 10
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Warren Young scripsit:
> Third, given a choice between the Cygwin package repo and the Ubuntu
> package repo, well, no contest, yes? Thatâs also why Ubuntu and
> not, say, Fedora or Arch; Microsoft chose the biggest single package
> repo available.
I'm not so sure of that. Canonical is fairly friendly to non-FLOSS
software, although the great bulk of the distro is of course FLOSS.
It may be a matter of who MS thought they could best work with.
> But to drag all of this back on topic, UfW is Microsoft saying,
> âYes, we know we screwed up. Please accept this full apology.â A
> whole lot of people are going to accept that gratefully.
Ever since I had to switch to Win64, I've missed CoLinux (which apparently
is no longer being developed). UoW, once the bugs are flushed, will
look a lot like that: the Windows filesystem is visible but the Win32
executables don't work. (Wine on UoW? Who knows?)
> Under PowerShell, you run a command line, get a given output, but then
> still have no obvious solution because the commandâs representation
> may materially change in a pipeline, so now you have to go chasing
> through the MSDN docs or reflection APIs to work out how to crawl its
> list-of-objects representation.
There are of course a few Posix commands like that, notably ls.
It's just that we are used to them, and they usually do the Right Thing
when the output is not a tty.
> UfW will be completely independent of Cygwin. Moreâs the pity,
> because it means youâll be incentivized to choose one or the other,
> likely to Cygwinâs net detriment.
Based on my CoLinux experience, I expect I'll keep Cygwin but won't
use it as much as I do today. It will still be indispensable for some
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