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Re: msmtp depends on Gnome!?
- From: Stephen Paul Carrier <carrier at berkeley dot edu>
- To: cygwin at cygwin dot com
- Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 16:11:06 -0700
- Subject: Re: msmtp depends on Gnome!?
- References: <20180328215009.GB3763@zebra> <610cdfa4-be29-ba03-74e6-842334c33eb8@SystematicSw.ab.ca> <email@example.com>
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 03:24:50PM -0400, Will Parsons wrote:
> On Wednesday, 28 Mar 2018 9:40 PM -0400, Brian Inglis wrote:
> > On 2018-03-28 15:50, Stephen Paul Carrier wrote:
> >> msmtp is billed as a light-weight SMTP client and I would like to use
> >> it with cron instead of ssmtp.
> >> What's not light-weight is its dependency on libgnome-keyring0 which
> >> has more dependencies that eventually bring in Gnome. This is for a
> >> headless workstation.
> >> Is it possible to remove or replace this dependency so that msmtp can
> >> be installed without enlarging the size of the install by such a factor?
> > Look at the other packages under the Mail category e.g. email, mailutils, nmh.
> > I've poked around with some of them, and most are pretty easy to set up and use,
> > depending on your requirements.
> That may be true, but it is still surprising that msmtp should depend
> on libgnome-keyring0. I don't use msmtp under Cygwin, but I do under
> FreeBSD, and under the latter platform, my version of msmtp seems to
> depend on:
> This obviously will not translate directly into Cygwin, but it
> certainly suggests that the OP's comment is justified. (I'll have to
> admit, I don't know why even bash should be a dependency.)
My use case is a sendmail replacement (MTA) to use with cron. I want to
configure it to send correctly formatted e-mail to a smarthub. That is
all I need. Cron expects something with sendmail-like commandline
interface. ssmtp does this poorly (and hasn't been maintained since
2009). msmtp is reputed to do this also, more reliably, more flexibly,
and had a new version released in 2016.
I don't need a MUA client like email, nmh, or a local delivery agent
like comes with mailutils. These are not sendmail workalikes.
I understand that Gnome may include a library used by msmtp. Maybe that
library could be packaged separately? It sort of defeats the purpose
of providing light-weight network utility if a desktop needs to be
installed just to get a miscellaneous library function. It is not even
a graphical program.
Also, maybe this dependency is just an oversight? Also, maybe
libgnome-keyring0 is really standalone and doesn't actually depend on
a desktop. Wherever this issue comes from it would be great and I would
appreciate the effort if anyone can correct it.
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