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i just looked it up in termcap, and your right! it's esc [ 2 J (normally) no wonder my screen clearing routines never work. soory for the interuption. my fault. > ^L as a character doesn't clear the screen of a terminal (it does when > you press ctrl-l). Try to put it in a file and then cat that file > from a Unix shell. > > Aleks > > > > > > > > > wait a sec. i just found documentation saying that the lower charactors > > were supported. "ff" (number twelve) i believe has been renamed "page". > > therefore (write-char #\page) should clear the screen. but it dosn't. > > > > does guile set the screen to some strange mode uppon startup? Corey Sweeney