Re: Various problems and/or questions on Insight 5.2.1

["Kai Ruottu" <kai dot ruottu at luukku dot com>]

Christopher Faylor <cgf@redhat.com> wrote:

> >On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> >>We really can't require people to install X in order to get a graphical
> >>debugger for cygwin.

 Basically this issue is about supporting Linux, not Windows. Which
one RedHat tries to do ?  I see the X11 being one way to finally get
a debugger for cygwin (and mingw), which one can remotely run on
Linux.

 AFAIK Cygwin shouldn't have much to do with 'supporting native-
Windows with using only the Win32-API', but trying to implement
Unix on Windows, so X11 belongs to this idea, not applications
using the native Win32-API. For this purpose there is the Mingw-
port.

> >>I suppose but, while I can't direct people's time, it sure seems like
> >>focusing on fixing the native insight is a much much higher priority.

 In all sanity the 'native' must mean Mingw, not Cygwin...

> Well, IMO, suggesting that cygwin users would want to install X in order
> to do debugging really is rather of a derailment of the issue at hand.

 They haven't understood the 'Cygwin' idea if they don't want to
convert their Windozes into Unixes and don't expect Cygwin really
doing this... As funny as it sounds, the Cygwin-users on the net
really are trying to use their Windoze/Cygwin's as 'Unixes', for
instance trying to build GNU-sources on this platform... And not
using Linux or something more Unix-like with Windoze-target cross-
tools for this purpose. Maybe they even try to build Insights on
Windoze/Cygwin...

> I really don't see what X has to do with the discussion of fixing
> tcl/tk/insight.  It seems to me like you are dragging an entirely
> different issue into this discussion.

 Years ago it was possible to start X11-apps on a single Solaris2
station and control these apps from Windoze-stations... If now
people want to start Insight on a Windoze-station and control it
from a Linux-station because all the GNU sources and development
tools, besides GDB now, are there, why RedHat is against this idea?
I assume Chris telling what the RedHat'ers think about this issue...

 Many Linux-users think Windoze being an 'embedded' system, which
is not capable to serve as a sane development/build environment.
Normally the debugger works in the sane host, but in the Windoze-
case it has been obligatory to run it on the  target system...

 But are there some serious problems in using a Windoze-station
as an X11-client when Cygwin/X11 has been installed there?

Cheers, Kai