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This sounds like it might be rather hairy to track down; I think you're going to have to track it down yourself. > along with a jigsaw.log file that has lots of errors like > Invalid parameter, should be: brl__handle__request This usually means that a cast failed. In spite of what it says, the reported type (brl__handle__request) is not what it *should be*, but what it *is* and should *not* be! This is a bug in Sun's JDK. For example, many primitive Scheme functions will emit these kinds of error messages if given invalid arguments. Better debugging and error reporting is high on the Kawa to-do list ... --Per Bothner Cygnus Solutions bothner@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~bothner