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Re: Linux kernel marker questions
- From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu dot desnoyers at polymtl dot ca>
- To: David Smith <dsmith at redhat dot com>
- Cc: Systemtap List <systemtap at sources dot redhat dot com>, ltt-dev at shafik dot org
- Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 03:10:26 -0400
- Subject: Re: Linux kernel marker questions
- References: <46531C6E.3010502@redhat.com>
Hi David,
I am currently on vacation, so I'll reply in full on May 28, when I'll
be back. Meanwhile, you can get a head-start by looking at the new
implementation of the markers in LTTng 0.9.6 (http://ltt.polymtl.ca): I
modified it quite a bit, taking in consideration comments from the
kernel community. The API did not change much though (just be cautious
of the new return value of marker_arm_probe, which is the logical
opposite of the old marker_set_probe).
Regards,
Mathieu
* David Smith (dsmith@redhat.com) wrote:
> Mathieu,
>
> I've just finished checking in initial support for your new kernel
> markers into systemtap. I've got some rough edges to work on, but in
> general it works.
>
> As I implemented the marker support, I come up with several questions
> I'd like some help/clarification with.
>
> 1) According to Documentation/marker.txt, the marker name
> (subsystem_event) is "is an identifier unique to your event".
>
> Am I correct that unique marker names are not strictly enforced but
> "uniqueness" is more of a convention?
>
> _marker_set_probe() seems to support the view that marker names aren't
> unique since it doesn't stop looking for more marker matches once it
> finds a match.
>
> One problem this creates for systemtap is that systemtap's probe syntax
> looks like 'kernel.mark("marker_name")' and
> 'module("module_name").mark('marker_name'). I believe with the current
> code if a marker exists with the same name, format string, and flags in
> the kernel and a loadable module there isn't any way to only enable the
> marker in one place or the other - you can only enable both markers
> (assuming the module is loaded). Am I correct?
>
> 2) _marker_set_probe() expects the marker name, format string, and flags
> that were specified when the marker was inserted. If marker names were
> truly unique, I would really only need the marker name to enable a marker.
>
> Since systemtap can compile modules for a kernel that isn't running, I
> can't really use marker_list_probe() for getting a list of markers
> present (even if the output of marker_list_probe() was more than just
> printks). So, currently to get a list of markers for a particular
> kernel, the code reads and parses the kernel/module '__markers_strings'
> elf section, which gets systemtap the marker names and format strings.
> (Getting the marker flags out of a kernel/module elf file is possible,
> but won't be easy.)
>
> Currently systemtap can only enable markers that used the MF_DEFAULT set
> of flags.
>
> Have you got any ideas on how systemtap (or any other program) can get a
> list of all the data _marker_set_probe needs?
>
> 3) From systemtap's point of view, _marker_set_probe() doesn't return
> enough error information. Currently it just returns the number of
> probes enabled. If _marker_set_probe returns a 0 (meaning no markers
> were enabled), I don't know which of the following that means:
>
> - the marker name wasn't found
> - the marker name was found, but format string didn't match the compiled
> format string
> - the marker name was found and the format strings matched, but the
> marker flags didn't match the compiled marker flags
> - the marker is already enabled (since markers can only have one
> function attached to them at a time)
>
> Would there be any way of getting more detailed error information?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> --
> David Smith
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Mathieu Desnoyers
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