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Re: Automake 1.4l released
- To: tromey at redhat dot com
- Subject: Re: Automake 1.4l released
- From: Earnie Boyd <earnie_boyd at yahoo dot com>
- Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 08:35:44 -0600
- CC: Bernard Dautrevaux <Dautrevaux at microprocess dot com>, 'Tim Van Holder' <tim dot van dot holder at pandora dot be>, Charles Wilson <cwilson at ece dot gatech dot edu>, automake at gnu dot org, CU List <Cygwin at Cygwin dot Com>
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Tom Tromey wrote:
> >>>>> "Earnie" == Earnie Boyd <email@example.com> writes:
> I don't know Cygwin very well. And I certainly wouldn't try to tell
> the Cygwin developers what to do. If this is just an oversight, then
> my preference would be to fix it in Cygwin. If it is fundamental to
> Cygwin for some reason, then I would suggest we fix it in `cp'.
> Automake probably isn't the only tool that relies on `cp -p'.
> Earnie> For other reasons, you are causing a HOALOW for little gain on
> Earnie> the tool side. The gain for Automake is what, "To test the
> Earnie> distribution for CDROM release"?
> I don't know what "HOALOW" means.
> The gain for automake is that we can now test for a real bug which is
> easy to accidentally introduce into a distribution. The `distcheck'
> target exists *only* to do testing to make sure the distribution is
> correct. You make it sound like this isn't very important, like we
> should simply disable this feature. Well, I disagree with that.
With your explanation, I disagree also.
> Earnie> At least test to see if `touch'ing a read only file will cause
> Earnie> problems and work around them automagically if it does.
> This makes a presumption about the implementation of `touch'. Some
> versions of `touch' are implemented using open()/write(). Those will
> The real question is about the behavior of `cp -p', which really
> should not depend on the mode of the source file (provided it is
> readable). Sure, we could test to make sure `cp -p' works. And we
> might, because there is obviously a bug here. But adding a workaround
> to Automake doesn't mean the bug is gone.
Thanks for the input. I have a clearer understanding of the problem and
Corinna has found a fix within Cygwin. However, I still think that
bugwardability ((tm) Akim Demaille) is appropriate for Automake.
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