[HEADSUP] Base category

Marco Atzeri marco.atzeri@gmail.com
Wed Dec 10 10:30:00 GMT 2014

On 12/10/2014 10:54 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> On Dec  9 23:19, Marco Atzeri wrote:

>> To me sounds wrong the concept, why we should hide this check to
>> the users ?
>> I have seen recently too many wrong dependencies pullings extra
>> unnecessary packages. I prefer to have users that could note the
>> issue and complain instead of installing "everything but the kitchen sink"
>> behind their back.
> Did you (and Ken) get me wrong, by any chance?
> What I was trying to say is *not* to remove the dependency dialog.  What
> I was trying to say is *only* to remove the check box in that dialog,
> which allows to install the selected packages without their dependencies.
> Just this check box.
> Such a check-box, or its equivalent on the command line, doesn't exist
> in other installers either.  Giving the choice to install without the
> dependencies is in 99% of the cases wrong.
> If you install package A on Fedora, the installer will tell you it has
> to install packages B, C, and D, to fullfill the dependencies for A.
> The choice you have is to install A, B, C and D, or nothing at all.
> There's no choice to install package A alone, which is what this
> check box allows.
> Again, the dialog itself is fine.  The choice to install without the
> deps usually is not.  *Iff* it's fine, then only for users who know
> what they are doing.
> As for the dialog itself, I just think it would make sense to fullfil
> deps of Base packages automatically.  If the user chooses to install
> other packages outside Base, and these packages have additional deps,
> then *of course* the additional deps should show up in that dialog.
> Does that clarify what I mean?  I'm sorry if my original mail was
> unclear.

Hi Corinna,
It is/was clear, but I still disagree.
I do not see the advantage of such reduced or hidden option.

I used a lot of time the check box to avoid pulling
unwanted/questionable dependencies (eg gcc-java pulling python3..).

Last time I used RPM, it still allowed to force install
ignoring dependency.

> Corinna


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