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Corinna Vinschen corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com
Wed Dec 10 11:06:00 GMT 2014

On Dec  9 16:04, Warren Young wrote:
> On Dec 9, 2014, at 3:48 AM, Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com> wrote:
> > On Dec  8 15:28, Warren Young wrote:
> >> I’ve got in mind the 2-3 times in my memory where Perl has crept into
> >> the minimal install set via some indirect dependency.
> > 
> > I still don't grok why everybody is so hot on keeping the base install
> > so very small.  Our Base package set is really tiny in comparison
> > with any Linux distro.  Perl is default on most of them.  Why not
> > for us?  Disk space is dirt cheap these days.
> I agree with both sides of the argument.  A tightly-scoped minimal
> install is a good thing, and it would be a good thing if we could have
> a universally-available programming language that fills the vast gap
> between sh and C. [1]

There is? :)

> It boggles my mind how much is in the Cygwin package repository, and
> then how much more is in Ports.  To some extent, this has to be a
> reflection of Sturgeon’s Law. [2]

Isn't that the same for all distros?  Cygwin has just a few thousand
packages, Linux distros have 10s of thousands.

> It is possible to install so much within Cygwin that you turn Windows
> into a rather slow Linux distro with a demented kernel.  If you’re
> going to do that, why not just switch to Linux or OS X on the desktop,
> and run *Windows* in a VM?
> This is as good a time as any to tell anyone who cares that I’ve
> finally done just that: I recently retired my last machine that boots
> natively into Windows.  I only have VMs now.  I’ll probably be fading
> from the Cygwin scene as a consequence.  I expect it to be a slow
> fade, since I still feel the need to pay back some of the value Cygwin
> provided to me in the years before we got mature VM systems.

Oh well.  I'm running Windows in VMs only for years and I still didn't
disappear from the project :}

> Therefore: So long, and can I help you find some fish before I go? :)

I'm sorry to read that.  In fact I had hoped you would be willing to
look a bit more into the documentation again, after you so kindly pulled
it into the 21st century last year.  There's certainly still much room
for improvement.

Thanks for your long-time involvment with Cygwin and bearing with us all
the time.  Please stick to us as long as you like.


Corinna Vinschen                  Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to
Cygwin Maintainer                 cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Red Hat
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