Cygwin port of Perl broken on Win32? Or does Cygwin not run on win32?

linda w cygwin@tlinx.org
Fri Dec 5 09:09:00 GMT 2003


I've always wanted to put cygwin tools *first* in my path before win32 
tools since
in some cases, there are hidden win32 tools that obscure well known *nix 
tools, like
'find' (being a primitive file string search).

Do you actually install both Perl installs?  I'm still running on a 
laptop for my  main desktop...not
having the best of luck these days since Dell decided to go 
middle-ware-only dealer and
not go for cutting edge HW in business capable computers (they have 
their consumer line of
Wide-screen laptops, incompatible with most monitors, making them 
unsuitable for business, but
make their business sized laptops incompatible with any docking station 
-- also incompatible with
business usage -- forcing you to use lattitudes where you pay $1000 more 
for less features.

Marketing poopoo all over customers -- like their customer support -- 
business customers will
get support personel who can speak english, but home customers still get 
sexist thick accent
Indians who only know how to read a script and "act" real polite (it's 
the left over Britsh influence)
while telling you to * off.  It took me 10 months to solve what should 
have been a simple 3 week
problem because they don't talk to each other on each side of the ocean 
and the Indian side has no authority to do anything, but the american 
side that has authority won't talk with customers, so you
go around in circles for 10 months to fix screwed up orders that used to 
be fixable in 3 weeks.

It's an attempt to tire out the customer because Indians can talk on the 
phone for hours without really
saying or accomplishing anything and get paid, per year about the cost 
of 2-3 machines, so it's
very cost effective to route customer problem calls to India where all 
but the most diehard customers
will just give up.  It was only the  possibility of losing large 
business customers that got them special
treatment and the ability to contact US support centers (which they'll 
have to restaff, most likely with
ex employees hired back as contractors so Dell won't have to pay 
benefits.  I hear they took
business management courses from Microsoft on how to \detain\ the best 
without really paying
for them.

:-/


Joaquin wrote:

>I just always use non-Cygwin tools first before Cygwin ports.
>Thus, for Perl, I use the ActiveState Perl in my path ahead of the
>Cygwin perl.  I also do the same for other things like Apache.
>
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com
>>[mailto:cygwin-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of linda w
>>Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:52 PM
>>To: cygwin@cygwin.com
>>Subject: Cygwin port of Perl broken on Win32? Or does Cygwin
>>not run on win32?
>>
>>
>>I was told this is a problem specific to Cygwin -- that
>>Cygwin believes it isn't runing on a Win platform.  Is this
>>true?  I knowt he goal is to
>>provide
>>posix compatibility, but that doesn't mean it has to strive
>>for windows incompatibility unless it breaks posix
>>compatibility ...no?  yes?  maybe?
>>
>>-linda
>>
>>linda w wrote:
>>
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>>> I'm trying to run a program that needs Registry.pm.  I
>>>      
>>>
>>pull it down
>>    
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>>>as part of Win32::Registry, but when I try to 'make' it, it fails:
>>>
>>>...
>>>Writing Makefile for Win32::ODBC
>>>Checking if your kit is complete...
>>>Looks good
>>>Processing hints file hints/cygwin.pl
>>>Note (probably harmless): No library found for -lole32
>>>Note (probably harmless): No library found for -loleaut32 Note
>>>(probably harmless): No library found for -luuid Note (probably
>>>harmless): No library found for -lmsvcrt40 Writing Makefile for
>>>Win32::OLE Checking if your kit is complete...
>>>Looks good
>>>Writing Makefile for Win32::PerfLib
>>>Checking if your kit is complete...
>>>Looks good
>>>Writing Makefile for Win32::Pipe
>>>ERROR from evaluation of
>>>//ishtar/share/CPAN/build-win/libwin32-0.191/Process/Ma
>>>kefile.PL: Undefined subroutine &Win32::IsWinNT called at
>>>./Makefile.PL line 4.
>>>
>>>Anyone have any ideas on why this is breaking or how to make this
>>>work?  Is
>>>it something broken in the cygwin "port", of perl, on Win32?
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>Linda W.
>>>
>>>
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