dselect - formally Re: Running as root

[Stephen Grant Brown]

Hi Larry,
The output of the program (which is dselect) I am having trouble with is in 
the attached file.
How do I find out which file has read-only access?

I am making the assumption that if a program is in the cygwin distribution, 
the cygwin community would like to get it working properly. Is this 
assumption valid? assume = ass + U + me.

Yours Sincerely Stephen Grant Brown
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Hall (Cygwin)" <reply-to-list-only-lh@cygwin.com>
To: <cygwin@cygwin.com>
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: Running as root


> Stephen Grant Brown wrote:
>> Hi Igor,
>>
>>> If you want to do something more complex than fooling a broken program
>>> into thinking that you're root, you might need to learn more about how
>>> Windows privileges work.  Google, as always, is your friend, and
>>> discussion like this is probably off-topic for this list.
>>
>> I look at things differently as you and as most other people on this 
>> list.
>>
>> When I download a program off the internet I expect it to run out of the 
>> box.
>> If a program does not run out of the box I expect to email a bug report 
>> and get it fixed.
>> Why put programs on the net that do not run?
>>
>> I like the idea of unstable and stable programs.
>>
>> The newbies use the stable programs. They download them and run them. 
>> They do not see any programmiing or installation erros.
>>
>> The people who want more functionality go to the unstable programs and 
>> help debug them.
>>
>> Doing it this way will keep a large percentage of the newbies from asking 
>> newby type questions on this list. This will in turn allow the experts to 
>> concentrate on developing the programs.
>
> Huh?  I had to go back and re-read this thread to make sure my memory of 
> it
> wasn't faulty.  Low and behold, it wasn't.  Here's the synopsis:
>
>  1. You send email to the list saying "I would like to run programs as 
> root,
>     which means the userid and group need to be set to 0, and the name 
> needs
>     to = root."
>
>  2. Igor replies and says, essentially, that you really can't do things 
> this
>     way but if you need to for some reason, here are some possible
>     workarounds.
>
>  3. There's a brief back and forth where you're looking for more info and
>     Igor quite reasonably responds that what you're looking for in generic
>     terms doesn't make sense and asks if you can start giving some 
> specifics
>     about the program or programs that you're working with that you 
> believe
>     need to be run as root.  He also points you to Google to learn more 
> about
>     how Windows privileges work.
>
>  4. "When I download a program off the internet I expect it to run out of
>      the box."
>
> That's a nice philosophy and in general, I agree with it.  But what 
> *exactly*
> does this philosophy have to do with Cygwin?  You're proceeding from a 
> faulty
> supposition.  There is no such thing as "root" on Windows.  Never has 
> been.
> Never will be.  If you need an exact concept of "root" under Windows, 
> Cygiwn
> isn't going to be able to provide this.  That's about as far as anyone on 
> this
> list is going to be able to take this subject without you being more 
> specific
> about what you're doing.  If you have a problem with a program that comes 
> as
> part of the Cygwin distribution (i.e. is part of one of the packages 
> listed in
> <http://cygwin.com/packages/>), then please tell us *exactly* what that
> problem is.  We prefer such reports to adhere to the problem reporting
> guidelines found at <http://cygwin.com/problems.html>.  So far this thread 
> has
> been very generic and pretty abstract.  As a result, it's going no-where
> pretty fast.  If your issue is not Cygwin specific, then Googling for
> information or finding a more appropriate forum is likely to be a better 
> route
> to the information you're looking for.  I believe that was the main point 
> Igor
> was trying to make with the piece of his last response that you quoted 
> above.
> So, if you could, please try to organize your thoughts on this subject and
> come back to the list with some specific Cygwin problem if it turns out to 
> be
> one.  Tell us precisely what you trying to do and where you see problems.
> I'm sure you'll get at least some good pointers to the information you 
> need.
>
> HTH,
>
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